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offered large grants to any universities that would create a Center for Ayn Rand Studies. These days, ASU is chasing the money because the state legislature has reduced our funding, so they appliedā€”again, some professors in Business. And they were successful. As a requirement of the award, a professor had to be designated to head the Center. There was a national search and Nelda was, I suppose, the best candidate. Her Center technically is located in Business because they got the grant, but, given her background, she wanted a joint appointment: Business and English.ā€

ā€œSo, what made her the best candidate, Professor Gilroy?ā€

ā€œWell, she has a good educational pedigree, and she was at Mount Holyoke and all that.ā€ He said this in a way that made it sound somehow only minimally acceptable. ā€œAnd, she is a Rand scholar. Sheā€™s written a book on Randā€™s novels. Actually, two books, I think. As well as several articles on Rand. All wereā€¦well received.ā€ He said this in a dismissive way.

ā€œAnd what did it mean to have such a Center?ā€

ā€œMost obviously, courses were added to the curriculum, both undergrad and grad, here and in Business; Nelda teaches the English courses. I take it that a part of her duties was to proselytize. Sheā€™s supposed to be generating student interest in Randā€¦honors theses, dissertationsā€¦I think the courses that she added to the curriculum were somehow tied to that. I know that sheā€™s in the process of planning a symposiumā€”for spring semester, I thinkā€”that would bring in other scholars and create a buzz.ā€

Gilroy said ā€œbuzzā€ as if this was somehow distasteful. ā€œSomeone said that there might be either an edited volume or maybe a special issue of a journal comprised of the conference papersā€¦but of course thatā€™s just table talk.ā€ He seemed on to be on the verge of another comment, but grew quiet, then added, ā€œNow, of courseā€¦ā€ He seemed to Jillian to be genuinely reflective. ā€œDetective, do you think that Nelda was murdered?ā€

ā€œItā€™s too early to know. Thatā€™s the sort of thing that the Forensics people are looking at. Professor, from what you were saying in the corridor earlier, there was some anger about her hiring. Is that correct?ā€

ā€œYes, people were far more upset about this than what Jonathan intimated. Some were angry about a donor literally having the power, the monetary where with-all, to create a position. You have to understand, because universities are so desperate for funding, itā€™s difficult to get new positions, especially in the Humanities. The English Department teaches the entire entry freshman class every yearā€”thatā€™s over eleven thousand studentsā€”but new positions are almost nonexistent. We arenā€™t even guaranteed replacement positions if someone retires or takes a job at another university. So, thereā€™s that. And then, other people just donā€™t like it that outside organizations with obvious political agendas can affect university hiring. Whether itā€™s the Rand organization or the Koch Brothersā€”by the way, theyā€™re here tooā€”lots of faculty just donā€™t like it. I donā€™t like it. I donā€™t have a political bone in my body, but it troubles me.ā€

ā€œSo, this anger against the award, was it directed against her personally? I donā€™t necessarily mean from you, but what about others?ā€

ā€œWell, yes, I was against having anything to do with locating the Center in the English Department, and of course that included hiring her as well. Rand may have been a successful novelist, in terms of book sales, but that was a long time ago. Sheā€™s not considered to be such an important writer these days. In other words, she hasnā€™t stood the test of time. However, once Nelda was here, Iā€™ve tried to be civilā€”sheā€™s a colleague after all, and this is a university. Although I have to say that with Nelda, thatā€™s not always easy. Sheā€™s not all that civil herself. Sheā€™s quite arrogant.ā€

ā€œIs this a widely held view of her?ā€

ā€œIt depends. Some people smell a possible career connection and suck-up to her.ā€ He said the words ā€œsome peopleā€ in a way that made it clear that he had specific people in mind. ā€œOthers are more ā€˜live and let live,ā€™ he said, and made air quotes. ā€œBut some, also here in English and in other departments, have been even more vocal, moreā€¦I guess youā€™d say agitated. Some of this was discussed in the Faculty Senate, although that went nowhere. And, I understand that there was an article submitted to The Chronicle, thatā€™s The Chronicle of Higher Education which is THE outlet for any discussion of universities. My understanding is that the article addressed the specific situation here at ASU, but was about the more general situation in universities, as well.ā€

ā€œWho wrote the article?ā€

ā€œAhā€¦Iā€™mā€¦I havenā€™t actually seen such an article so maybe I shouldnā€™t comment further on that. I do know that it has not yet been published. You have to understand, Detective, feelings run high on these matters.ā€

ā€œI completely understand. Iā€™ll of course interview Ms. Wilson and Professor Keefer, but would you suggest that we chat with others, either your colleagues or professors in other departments?ā€

ā€œWellā€¦I hate to name namesā€¦ā€

ā€œProfessor Gilroy, this isnā€™t about being a tattle-tale on the playground,ā€ she said, changing her tack. ā€œThis may turn out to be a murder investigation. The more accurate our picture is, the better our investigation can proceed.ā€ Then, she changed tack again. ā€œPlease, we need your help. After all, you were enough of a stand-up person that you called us to report her death.ā€

Maybe the compliment appealed to Gilroyā€™s vanity or maybe it made him see reasonā€¦in any case, he said, ā€œYouā€™re right, of course. So, the person in the Faculty Senate who was far and away the most resolute in his opposition to the Rand award, and especially to the Koch Brothers, was Ian Naremore.ā€

ā€œIan Naremoreā€¦OK.ā€

ā€œRight, right, you may know him. Heā€™s a Justice Studies professor.ā€

ā€œYes, I had classes with him.ā€

ā€œWell, it is a small world after all. By the way, and I apologize for not rememberingā€”some of my classes are quite largeā€”but Detective Warne, did you ever have

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