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The conversation grew increasingly more absurd. Given that Madoff had this perfect knowledge of the market, Neil asked, why does he need all these other funds? According to the model, Madoff was actually earning considerably less than those funds. So why didnāt he just eliminate the middlemen, set up his own hedge fund, and charge 1 percent or 2 percent fees and 20 percent of the profit? Neil told me that when Vijayvergiya said seriously that āMadoff doesnāt have the operational capability to set up a hedge fund structure,ā he had to consciously stop himself from laughing out loud.
This guy actually expected Neil to believe that Bernie Madoff, who had helped found NASDAQ and who had built his own market-making operation, couldnāt set up his own hedge fund. It probably takes about $50,000, a computer, and some office furniture to open a hedge fund. There are no barriers to entry into the hedge fund world. All you have to do is copy someone elseās documents and file a few papers, and youāre in business.
Neil finally replied, āWell, I canāt believe Bernie couldnāt just open a hedge fund and hire all the people he needs around the world for less than $20 million a year and keep all the rest for himself. He wouldnāt have to deal with all the headaches that come with these other funds and he would keep most of the money himself. It makes sense. Why wouldnāt he do that?ā
Vijayvergiya literally did not answer. Instead, he continued pitching the same nonsense weād been reading about for almost eight years. Neil had to wonder how many people had listened to it and accepted it without questioning it, instead being seduced by the returns. Well, at least $7 billion worth. Obviously, there had been many other people who had heard it and walked away from the table; for example, none of the major New York investment houses had bought it. But this time Vijayvergiya was talking to someone who intended to call him on it. āWould you explain that to me? Iāve got to tell you, Iāve never heard anything like that before. Are you telling me that Madoff literally knows when the marketās going to go up and when itās going to go down?ā And basically, Vijayvergiya claimed that was true. Neil wondered, do you actually believe that? Itās been proven over and over and over by academic studies that no one can time the market, let alone time the market consistently for 17 consecutive years. It made no sense, so Neil asked, āAre you telling me Bernie basically has had perfect market timing every month for the last 17 years?ā
Vijayvergiya didnāt respond directly to that.
āI just donāt get it,ā Neil continued. āIf you had perfect market timing like Madoff says he does, a split-strike conversion is the last strategy youād use. I mean, if you really knew which way the market was going, youād be buying leveraged futures or options. You could make a killing with a lot of other strategies, but this one actually limits you.ā
Vijayvergiya basically had no answer for that.
Neil then asked him why Madoff traded over the counter (OTC) rather than doing listed trades. Again, he didnāt have an answer.
Neil asked him the cost of trading OTC against listed stocks. He had no answer.
Later, when Neil was telling me about this, he just kept repeating, āIt was comical. This guy didnāt know anything. I kept asking him about how the trades actually get executed, and I was drilling him every which way. Are they instantaneous, does he do the options all at once, does he package trade, does he toss in a third market?āevery possible question you could ask about how a trade is implemented. I was firing away at him and eventually he says, āThere might be a three-or four-hour time lag from the time he actually does the stock trade verses the options.ā He estimated that about 20 percent of Madoffās trades were done that way.ā
Neil told me, āImmediately I was like, āWell, when you leg into a trade, when you only do one side and not the other side instantaneously, thereās always the risk of it going against you before you get the other side of the trade off. Iāve done that, and I know you can get burnt really hard, really fast. So how does he protect himself?āā
Vijayvergiya basically had no answer for that question, either.
Neil spent about 45 minutes on the phone with him. In hindsight, he was sorry he hadnāt stayed on the phone for hours and run through all our questions. But 45 minutes was all Neil could take. When he hung up, he was frustrated and angry. After all these years, Neil still thought there was a small possibility it was front running rather than a Ponzi, but this call settled that for him once and for all. He e-mailed me, āI canāt believe they have kept this Ponzi scheme going on for this long.ā
Probably the only thing about this conversation that surprised us was the reality that Fairfield had so little respect for the people with whom it was dealing that they hadnāt even bothered to make up some sort of plausible answers to these questions. The attitude was, you want these returns? Then you accept what Iām telling youāor rather what Iām not telling you.
All you have to do to get rich is believe in Bernie.
Even after that disastrous phone conversation, the third party marketer called Neil and asked if he was still interested in giving several million dollars to FGG to handle. Neil made him an offer. āTell you what,ā he said. āIāll give him fifty million dollars right now. Iāll cut you a check for fifty million bucks. I can get it done next weekābut itās gotta be done in my separate account with my prime broker and only with listed OEX options. He can charge me his two and twenty, whatever he wants
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