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exceeding pains in setting himself off, for as he was crossing a gutter with great hesitation, he said: ā€œHe is right to look down upon the mud, for he cannot see himself in it.ā€ And when some Cynic one day said that he had no oil in his cruise, and asked him for some, he refused to give him any, but bade him go away and consider which of the two was the more impudent. He was very much in love with Chremonides; and once, when he and Cleanthes were both sitting by him, he got up; and as Cleanthes wondered at this, he said: ā€œI hear from skillful physicians that the best thing for some tumours is rest.ā€ Once, when two people were sitting above him at table at a banquet, and the one next him kept kicking the other with his foot, he himself kicked him with his knee; and when he turned round upon him for doing so, he said: ā€œWhy then do you think that your other neighbor is to be treated in this way by you?ā€

On one occasion he said to a man who was very fond of young boys, that: ā€œSchoolmasters who were always associating with boys had no more intellect than the boys themselves.ā€ He used also to say that the discourses of those men who were careful to avoid solecisms, and to adhere to the strictest rules of composition, were like Alexandrine money, they were pleasing to the eye and well-formed like the coin, but were nothing the better for that; but those who were not so particular he likened to the Attic tetradrachmas, which were struck at random and without any great nicety, and so he said that their discourses often outweighed the more polished styles of the others. And when Ariston, his disciple, had been holding forth a good deal without much wit, but still in some points with a good deal of readiness and confidence, he said to him: ā€œIt would be impossible for you to speak thus, if your father had not been drunk when he begat you;ā€ and for the same reason he nicknamed him the chatterer, as he himself was very concise in his speeches. Once, when he was in company with an epicure who usually left nothing for his messmates, and when a large fish was set before him, he took it all as if he could eat the whole of it; and when the others looked at him with astonishment, he said: ā€œWhat then do you think that your companions feel every day, if you cannot bear with my gluttony for one day?ā€

On one occasion, when a youth was asking him questions with a pertinacity unsuited to his age, he led him to a looking-glass and bade him look at himself, and then asked him whether such questions appeared suitable to the face he saw there. And when a man said before him once, that in most points he did not agree with the doctrines of Antisthenes, he quoted to him an apothegm of Sophocles, and asked him whether he thought there was much sense in that, and when he said that he did not know: ā€œAre you not then ashamed,ā€ said he, ā€œto pick out and recollect anything bad which may have been said by Antisthenes, but not to regard or remember whatever is said that is good?ā€ A man once said that the sayings of the philosophers appeared to him very trivial: ā€œYou say true,ā€ replied Zeno, ā€œand their syllables too ought to be short, if that is possible.ā€ When someone spoke to him of Polemo, and said that he proposed one question for discussion and then argued another, he became angry, and said: ā€œAt what value did he estimate the subject that had been proposed?ā€ And he said that a man who was to discuss a question ought to have a loud voice and great energy, like the actors, but not to open his mouth too wide, which those who speak a great deal but only talk nonsense usually do. And he used to say that there was no need for those who argued well to leave their hearers room to look about them, as good workmen do who want to have their work seen; but that, on the contrary, those who are listening to them ought to be so attentive to all that is said as to have no leisure to take notes.

Once when a young man was talking a great deal, he said: ā€œYour ears have run down into your tongue.ā€ On one occasion a very handsome man was saying that a wise man did not appear to him likely to fall in love: ā€œThen,ā€ said he, ā€œI cannot imagine anything that will be more miserable than you good-looking fellows.ā€ He also used often to say that most philosophers were wise in great things, but ignorant of petty subjects and chance details; and he used to cite the saying of Caphesius, who, when one of his pupils was laboring hard to be able to blow very powerfully, gave him a slap, and said that excellence did not depend upon greatness, but greatness on excellence. Once, when a young man was arguing very confidently, he said: ā€œI should not like to say, O youth, all that occurs to me.ā€ And once, when a handsome and wealthy Rhodian, but one who had no other qualification, was pressing him to take him as a pupil, he, as he was not inclined to receive him, first of all made him sit on the dusty seats that he might dirt his cloak, then he put him down in the place of the poor that he might rub against their rags, and at last the young man went away. One of his sayings used to be that vanity was the most unbecoming of all things, and especially so in the young. Another was that one ought not to try and recollect the exact words and

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